Cast & Chart

Goat and Monkey

These are traditional rules about the twelve signs. No chart decides a relationship.

The traditional relations

  • 無 No listed relation

    None of the classical relations apply to this pair.

What tradition says

未 and 申 are adjoining branches, the sixth and seventh months, at the turn from the summer group to the autumn group. No entry for them appears in the relation tables. 未 is yin earth and 申 is yang metal, and earth bears metal, so the generating cycle runs from Goat to Monkey.

In popular zodiac columns a dreamy Goat meets a mischievous Monkey, and popular charts tend to call it light and fun. The Monkey's jokes and the Goat's moods are inventions of that genre. Your own experience of either sign is a better guide.

A joke can land as affection for one person and as dismissal for another. Tell each other about a time teasing went wrong, and what would have made it land better.

Neighbors on the circle are just neighbors in the calendar, so 未 beside 申 is a fact about signs and tells nothing of a given Goat and Monkey.

Where this text comes from

The relation tables follow 五行大義 volume 2 and 三命通會 volumes 2 and 3 on Wikisource. The popular readings are modern and come from neither.

The English here is our own plain wording, not a translation of a single source.