Cast & Chart

Rooster and Rooster

These are traditional rules about the twelve signs. No chart decides a relationship.

The traditional relations

  • 自刑 Self-Punishment

    A branch the old tables list as punishing itself when doubled. The name is a label, not a forecast.

What tradition says

酉 is one of four branches that punish themselves, the class called 自刑 or Self-Punishment, so two Roosters count. The Sanming Tonghui reaches 酉 by laying the metal group 巳酉丑 over 申酉戌, where 酉 falls opposite 酉. The Wuxing Dayi quotes a Han memorial on metal's hardness and places this group's punishment in the west, and it names 酉 among those who punish themselves.

Comedy is the usual mode of the popular zodiac here, with two proud, punctual Roosters correcting each other's details. Much of the joke turns on who gets the last word. The classical entry is far drier, a note that 酉 meeting 酉 is self-punishing.

If you are both exacting, decide which things really need checking and which can go unchecked. Name one household standard each of you would be willing to relax for a month.

酉 meeting 酉 is a line in a table about a sign, and whatever two Roosters make of each other is their own affair.

Where this text comes from

The relation tables follow 五行大義 volume 2 and 三命通會 volumes 2 and 3 on Wikisource. The popular readings are modern and come from neither.

The English here is our own plain wording, not a translation of a single source.