Cast & Chart

Horse and Monkey

These are traditional rules about the twelve signs. No chart decides a relationship.

The traditional relations

  • 無 No listed relation

    None of the classical relations apply to this pair.

What tradition says

Nothing in the classical tables connects 午 and 申. A gap of two places leaves them both yang. 午 is fire at midsummer, 申 is metal in the seventh month, and fire melts metal, so the overcoming cycle runs from Horse to Monkey. In the triads they stand apart as well, 午 with fire and 申 with water.

Readers of popular zodiac books will find a lively pair, a Horse who wants motion and a Monkey who wants novelty. Popular charts generally treat them as good company for a while and leave the rest vague. Since the classical tables are silent, there is little to hold those scores to.

Both are described as easily bored, so ask what keeps you interested through a long stretch of ordinary weeks. Trade one routine you each quietly like, since routines are what these two signs are supposed to lack.

With no classical label on 午 and 申, any score you see describes two signs and has never met you.

Where this text comes from

The relation tables follow 五行大義 volume 2 and 三命通會 volumes 2 and 3 on Wikisource. The popular readings are modern and come from neither.

The English here is our own plain wording, not a translation of a single source.